why wouldn't it? i was brand new here, trying to learn the dynamic and this dude, who is basically an older you? goes after you to antagonize you to the point of you blocking him on my network post?
i did see that. anyone who treats family members like that isn't someone that cares about people outside of it.
well good i guess at least something'll possibly get done since i can't do more
heh, well... been told they ain't my family and should mind my own business, but i'll go to bat for people either way. let them be pissed off, idc. if it helps someone, then it's worth doing.
[Is a little thrown by the nickname, but...yeah, it's okay. He doesn't hate its use. (Pointedly not letting himself think about how that might be kind of him.)]
My Raph feels the same way as you. I'm pretty sure Mikey feels similarly I don't know how my Leo feels but he at least wanted to make sure you had friends and places to go; he sent a message to our groupchat making sure we knew about you when you first arrived
I don't know how our future selves feel But I also don't like them so I don't care
*the fact that Leo actually brought up his existence to like, the rest of their actual family throws him for a second. He's barely talked to him*
wait what? really?
i thought leo hated me.
mikey i've only really hung out with once or twice and your raph was welcoming when i came to the lair after april pretty much insisted. i give people their space though; i know how much people need it.
the fact that you're helping me out kind of says a lot but directly asking how you feel or your perspective on where i stand is probably next. if you wanna answer that.
well
older leo's pretty cool but he'll obviously focus on his actual bro.
And what I stand to gain by being around you greatly outweighs any kind of inconvenience I experience by helping you so I don't see why I shouldn't
But I don't consider anybody but my family as family I would think that's normal, but my brothers have made it pretty clear that I'm the odd man out on that conclusion
"the fact that you're helping me out kind of says a lot but directly asking how you feel or your perspective on where i stand is probably next. if you wanna answer that."
Did you not actually want me to answer? I'll need you to be literal
*well that was fast! That only makes him answer the door quickly - it must be important if she's house calling. He blinks as she looks rather tired, but waves her inside*
You look about to fall over; c'mon in and sit down--are you okay?
....... oh yeah, this is an awkward silence. How the hell does she put it? She was rehearsing different ways all the way here, but she's too tired and emotionally drained for any of it to stick or feel like the right way to do things.]
...there was an incident. [She sounds a little like she's just reporting the news, voice flat.] Hunter got possessed by this evil demon guy. It's been dealt with now, but there was--
[...]
--before anyone knew what was going on, he hurt Casey.
*the fact that she looks so exhausted doesn't help his nerves. This is obviously bad news coming. He wasn't at the Lair anymore so if anything happened to the other turtles, he wouldn't have known. But...honestly why would she be here when he barely knows any of them?*
*but she mentions Hunter and Casey. He didn't know Hunter well - he had only just spoken with him, but Casey--*
How the hell did Hunter get--*he frowns, since she mentioned it's been handled*--is he alright now?
[She couldn't answer that question anyway. How did Hunter get possessed? Fuck knows. Maybe she'll ask later when Casey's back. At the question, her mouth tightens, fists crumpling into her yellow shirt.]
Bad enough that... we won't see him for a while. [Oh Raph is too new, probably, he won't understand that oblique reference, so she forces herself to clarify:] He's dead. Death doesn't stick here, but--
*that first bit is worrying enough because that means it's bad - if Casey was really hurt, of course seeing him around wasn't going to happen - he'd need to rest up and heal and--*
*but that's not what she means*
*he goes still at that. She's saying something about how death doesn't stick around in this weird world but he swears she sounds so far away now as his hands tighten against his thighs*
He'll be back. [That part's important. It also sucks, because grief still happens anyway and-- but he'll come back and she can yell at him for dying, that's the way it goes and the way she processes. (And then she didn't do that anyway because he didn't remember, but that's an issue for later--)]
He's not the first to have died here-- sometimes the shit that goes on here gets lethal. Because we're copies or whatever, I guess Thirteen just goes whoops and reboots us. I don't know. But...
[She's not sure what else to say. So a little lamely, at the end and soft:]
I thought you should know.
[It's not the kind of thing you keep from friends.]
*he forces himself to focus on her face. Her mouth. He's trying to listen but this is Casey they're talking about - probably like the nicest dude even in this screwed up world???? How could that happen? Something possessed HIS BOYFRIEND to kill him????*
what the fuck
*this isn't about him - he pushes his own emotion back, tamping it down. Not now. Not NOW. This isn't about his damned feelings about it. Not when there's others more important---He shakes his head and closes his eyes hard*
[April is feeling thin-skinned enough right now that she feels a flare of anger at that; does he think they're blaming Hunter? That they're not already looking after their own? But when she jerks her head up to say as much, she finds his eyes shut tight, and she swallows the words back, knuckles going white where they grip her shirt.
She doesn't say anything until she can be sure the words are steady and not laden with temper. Raph didn't mean anything by it. He's trying to cope.]
Not exactly our first possession.
Hunter's a mess as it is. We ain't blamin' him on top of that.
*he isn't looking at her still; he knows he can't or he'll shatter. Instead he focuses on the fact that this must be devastating for the rest of them. Casey's their family. Of course it's going to wreck them*
*of course, he has to bite down the urge to snark about how Casey's uncle probably would - Tello is not exactly his favorite person. Not helpful. He keeps his voice even despite everything. Reminds himself that she didn't have to tell him. None of them did. After all he's not family*
He's gonna need ya'll a lot... *he manages - there's that familiar feeling of guilt. Survivor's guilt - he's full of it himself and he can only imagine how Hunter's feeling*
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You really are a Raph, huh
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i thought we had established this when we met.
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Is he like me?
Or the older me?
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more like you than the older one
i'd say he's pretty chill but sometimes he flies off the handle.
why do you ask?
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Anyway your strategy probably worked
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oh, with the older you? here's hoping.
dude can hate me forever idc as long as someone helps. i think april's going to talk to him.
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I'm not sure why you would try so hard. It's not like HE'S your brother
Do you even like him?
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he's case's uncle and case is my friend.
not really. he was an asshole to you the first time i talked to him.
just figured i should do something
probably shouldn't have since 'i'm not family'
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To...him? Tf]
What's that matter?
I'm helping Casey Jr. because I owe him and the science is interesting
And
Because I suppose I can respect being willing to piss off your family if it means saving them
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i did see that. anyone who treats family members like that isn't someone that cares about people outside of it.
well good i guess at least something'll possibly get done since i can't do more
heh, well... been told they ain't my family and should mind my own business, but i'll go to bat for people either way. let them be pissed off, idc. if it helps someone, then it's worth doing.
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Very Raph of you.
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that's me ig
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You're not allowed to get mad about it because I'm not trying to be a jerk or imply anything
Do you really consider any of us here to be family?
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well, yeah, i do. or well, did. if people don't want me to, then i have to accept that.
you guys might not be my direct fam but like, other worlds exist out there, so you're like a different part of the clan.
though i guess that might be weirder than i thought it would be.
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My Raph feels the same way as you. I'm pretty sure Mikey feels similarly
I don't know how my Leo feels but he at least wanted to make sure you had friends and places to go; he sent a message to our groupchat making sure we knew about you when you first arrived
I don't know how our future selves feel
But I also don't like them so I don't care
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wait what? really?
i thought leo hated me.
mikey i've only really hung out with once or twice and your raph was welcoming when i came to the lair after april pretty much insisted. i give people their space though; i know how much people need it.
the fact that you're helping me out kind of says a lot but directly asking how you feel or your perspective on where i stand is probably next. if you wanna answer that.
well
older leo's pretty cool but he'll obviously focus on his actual bro.
ahahahaha
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And what I stand to gain by being around you greatly outweighs any kind of inconvenience I experience by helping you so I don't see why I shouldn't
But I don't consider anybody but my family as family
I would think that's normal, but my brothers have made it pretty clear that I'm the odd man out on that conclusion
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well, i appreciate it anyway. it sucks being the only one here.
ah... got it.
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"the fact that you're helping me out kind of says a lot but directly asking how you feel or your perspective on where i stand is probably next. if you wanna answer that."
Did you not actually want me to answer? I'll need you to be literal
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i'd rather know where i stand with everyone.
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i'd rather know
even if it just makes me feel more alone
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ended up meeting other people from other worlds and everything over the years so
yea
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In a controlled environment???
I'm so jealous of your Donatello
Bastard
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hahaha
m'sure you two would love to collab given what he and you know
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I mean either way it'll be fun
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i'd prefer a lack of death for both of you honestly
but i'm sure you two would have a blast
Probably a couple days after Belos (TM)
i need to talk to you
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what's up?
/wades back here
*blankets* don't hurt your arm bby
sent ya the deets; i'll let the peeps downstairs know ta letcha up
doin my best o>
[Lo and behold she'll front up at his door in about five minutes looking... tired. But not hurt, at least! Magical healing is great for that.]
good <3
You look about to fall over; c'mon in and sit down--are you okay?
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I'm here with bad news. But it's uh... temporary bad news, given how this place works. You deserve to know, though.
[Pats the couch. You wanna also be sitting for this, my guy, as her attempt at a smile fades pretty quickly.]
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Bad news? *that's never good... but he comes to join her on the couch, obviously concerned when her smile fads*
What happened?
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....... oh yeah, this is an awkward silence. How the hell does she put it? She was rehearsing different ways all the way here, but she's too tired and emotionally drained for any of it to stick or feel like the right way to do things.]
...there was an incident. [She sounds a little like she's just reporting the news, voice flat.] Hunter got possessed by this evil demon guy. It's been dealt with now, but there was--
[...]
--before anyone knew what was going on, he hurt Casey.
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*but she mentions Hunter and Casey. He didn't know Hunter well - he had only just spoken with him, but Casey--*
How the hell did Hunter get--*he frowns, since she mentioned it's been handled*--is he alright now?
*but there's the hammer drop* ...shit--how bad?
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Bad enough that... we won't see him for a while. [Oh Raph is too new, probably, he won't understand that oblique reference, so she forces herself to clarify:] He's dead. Death doesn't stick here, but--
[But it hurts plenty bad enough anyway.]
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*but that's not what she means*
*he goes still at that. She's saying something about how death doesn't stick around in this weird world but he swears she sounds so far away now as his hands tighten against his thighs*
...what?
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He's not the first to have died here-- sometimes the shit that goes on here gets lethal. Because we're copies or whatever, I guess Thirteen just goes whoops and reboots us. I don't know. But...
[She's not sure what else to say. So a little lamely, at the end and soft:]
I thought you should know.
[It's not the kind of thing you keep from friends.]
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what the fuck
*this isn't about him - he pushes his own emotion back, tamping it down. Not now. Not NOW. This isn't about his damned feelings about it. Not when there's others more important---He shakes his head and closes his eyes hard*
Ya'll need to be there for Leo.
And Hunter.
It---it wasn't his fault.
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She doesn't say anything until she can be sure the words are steady and not laden with temper. Raph didn't mean anything by it. He's trying to cope.]
Not exactly our first possession.
Hunter's a mess as it is. We ain't blamin' him on top of that.
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*of course, he has to bite down the urge to snark about how Casey's uncle probably would - Tello is not exactly his favorite person. Not helpful. He keeps his voice even despite everything. Reminds himself that she didn't have to tell him. None of them did. After all he's not family*
He's gonna need ya'll a lot... *he manages - there's that familiar feeling of guilt. Survivor's guilt - he's full of it himself and he can only imagine how Hunter's feeling*
Thanks fer...tellin' me.